From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f849b,b8d52151b7b306d2 X-Google-Attributes: gidf849b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,a00006d3c4735d70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-06 10:34:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!newsfeed2.dallas1.level3.net!news.level3.com!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!washdc3-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!feed2.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr29.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!0136fd02!not-for-mail From: "Kelly Hall" Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.ada References: <3fe00b82.90228601@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <5802069.JsgInS3tXa@linux1.krischik.com> <1072464162.325936@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1563361.SfB03k3vvC@linux1.krischik.com> <11LvOkBBXw7$EAJw@phaedsys.demon.co.uk> <3ff0687f.528387944@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1086072.fFeiH4ICbz@linux1.krischik.com> <3ff18d4d.603356952@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1731094.1f7Irsyk1h@linux1.krischik.com> <3ff1b8ef.614528516@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3FF1E06D.A351CCB4@yahoo.com> <3ff20cc8.635997032@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3ff9df16.30249104@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1665674.ZrTUW4qaQq@linux1.krischik.com> <1073409810.463948@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Subject: Re: Certified C compilers for safety-critical embedded systems X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.102.104.158 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr29.news.prodigy.com 1073413997 ST000 216.102.104.158 (Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:33:17 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 13:33:17 EST Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: Q[R_PJSCOXTIBRLYBBHDM^P@VZ\LPCXLLBWLOOAFMAVNDQUBLNTC@AWZWDXZXQ[K\FFSKCVM@F_N_DOBWVWG__LG@VVOIPLIGX\\BU_B@\P\PFX\B[APHTWAHDCKJF^NHD[YJAZMCY_CWG[SX\Y]^KC\HSZRWSWKGAY_PC[BQ[BXAS\F\\@DMTLFZFUE@\VL Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 18:33:17 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch.embedded:6875 comp.lang.ada:4149 Date: 2004-01-06T18:33:17+00:00 List-Id: "Hyman Rosen" wrote in message news:1073409810.463948@master.nyc.kbcfp.com... > This is the main feature which confounds attempts to use the C > preprocessor on Ada programs. It also confounds "ordinary" program > editors that believe single quotes should come in matched pairs. As for the C preprocessor, why not use m4 instead? Why would anyone want to use the C preprocessor on Ada programs when there are other, better, just-as-free, macro processors available? As for smart editors that aren't smart enough, I'd suggest upgrading to something smarter or downgrading to something dumber. Emacs and vi should both work fine. > Yet another obstacle for potential new users of Ada, who might want > to load up some Ada code in a non-Ada IDE to have a look at it. Is it common for developers to have their programming language selection determined by the limitations of their text editor? If you want to argue against Ada, you should find a better argument than "my editor is broken". Kelly