From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE, WEIRD_PORT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10fec3,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid10fec3,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b19fa62fdce575f9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 108a70,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid108a70,public X-Google-Thread: 108717,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid108717,public X-Google-Thread: 111308,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid111308,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-12-30 12:04:54 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!a3bsrv.radnet.com!pagesat.net!news.cerf.net!news From: gjong@cerfnet.com Newsgroups: comp.programming,comp.object,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada,comp.databases.sybase,comp.databases.oracle,comp.client-server Subject: Re: Why don't large companies use Ada? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 94 11:20:01 pdt Organization: CERFnet Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: default92.usa.cerfnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: NEWTNews & Chameleon -- TCP/IP for MS Windows from NetManage Xref: nntp.gmd.de comp.programming:13683 comp.object:19051 comp.lang.c++:84569 comp.lang.c:73278 comp.lang.ada:17704 comp.databases.sybase:14359 comp.databases.oracle:24398 comp.client-server:7529 Date: 1994-12-30T11:20:01-07:00 List-Id: Dear David: Thought you might know of some people who might be qualified and interested in several Oracle related jobs we have available at Xircom. I've attached job descriptions for the available jobs. Would appreciate it if you would pass them along to potential leads/candidates, or refer leads to me for follow up. All 3 positions offer extraordinary opportunities within a company experiencing geometric growth. Regards, G. Jong Director of Recruitment Xircom ORACLE Implementation Project Leader: Will have overall responsibility for implementing and upgrading Oracle Application Systems world-wide (US, Europe, Asia) including: * Developing project schedules and organize projects to achieve major project goals * Managing Oracle implementation projects in Europe and Asia * Managing Oracle migration projects to new releases world-wide * Communicating project status to project steering committee * Conducting regular project meetings with project team members * Tracking project/system issues and insure resources are available to resolve/complete work in a timely manner Requirements: * Bachelor's degree in a related field * Five years experience in systems analysis within a manufacturing environment, with a minimum of two years programming experience * Previous experience implementing and upgrading application systems, ideally, Oracle on a multi-national level * Capability and willingness to travel abroad; specifically, Europe and Asia Salary: $75k - 90K with stock participation. ************************************************************************* Systems Analyst: * A BS degree in Computer Science/Information Systems * A minimum of 2 years programming experience (ORACLE Applications in a Windows/Novell/Unix environment is highly desirable) * Three years experience in systems analysis * Previous experience within a manufacturing environment. The position requires a team player who is customer-service and quality oriented with the ability to solve problems and achieve results in a timely fashion. The selected individual will have overall responsibility for the implementation and support of the application modules for one of three areas of users (Operations, Finance, or Sales/Marketing). Salary: $50-65k with stock participation ********************************************************************** Network Systems Engineer : A BS degree and a minimum of 4 years experience in a 200+ user network, a minimum of one year of experience inNetWare administration, and CNE certification. Familiarity with Uix, Novell, Windows (NT), OS/2, Internet and Synoptics/Cisco hardware is highly desirable. The selected individual will have the opportunity to architect a "Premier Multinational Network" which will be robust (eg. 100% availability with sub-second response time) and feature-rich (eg. FDDI or ATM backbone, Ethernet/FDDI/ATM switches, routers, "super servers", server for HD-to-HD backup, tape drives, Unix, Netware, NT, OS/2, Windows, MacIntosh, email). Salary: $65-75k with stock participation Interested/qualified candidates are welcome to email resumes to: jobs@xircom.com; fax resumes to 805-376-9030; or mail resumes to: Xircom, 2300 Corporate Center Drive, Thousand Oaks, CA 91320. In article , writes: > Path: news.cerf.net!io.rdc.puc-rio.br!lakesis.fapesp.br!fnnews.fnal.gov!usenet.ee l.ufl.edu!news.mathworks.com!news.duke.edu!eff!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitr e.org!linus!mbunix!emery > From: emery@goldfinger.mitre.org (David Emery) > Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.programming,comp.lang.c++,comp.object,comp.d atabases.sybase,comp.databases.oracle,comp.client-server > Subject: Re: Why don't large companies use Ada? > Date: 15 Nov 94 09:40:17 > Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. > Lines: 20 > Message-ID: > References: <3a6oc5$dkh@nntp1.u.washington.edu> > > NNTP-Posting-Host: goldfinger.mitre.org > In-reply-to: bjz@innsol.com's message of Tue, 15 Nov 1994 04:15:48 GMT > Xref: news.cerf.net comp.lang.ada:19682 comp.lang.c:86055 comp.programming:12557 comp.lang.c++:90684 comp.object:21370 comp.databases.sybase:12826 comp.databases.oracle:22250 comp.client-server:6800 > > >Ada developers are rare. C/C++ developers are all over the place. > > It's a big mistake to equate C and C++ programmers. There's a > substantial difference in approach between the two languages. In my > observation, the number of C programmers >> the number of C++ > programmers. What's worse, the number of people claiming to > know C++ >> the number of people who actually understand the language. > > Thus a lot of alleged C++ is nothing more than bad C with 'OOP-sugar' > sprinkled over the code. > > dave > -- > --The preceeding opinions do not necessarily reflect the opinions of > --The MITRE Corporation or its sponsors. > -- "A good plan violently executed -NOW- is better than a perfect plan > -- next week" George Patton > -- "Any damn fool can write a plan. It's the execution that gets you > -- all screwed up" James Hollingsworth > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >