From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,8623fab5750cd6aa X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed2.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!west2.newsfeed.sprint-canada.net!news-in.mts.net!nf1.bellglobal.com!nf2.bellglobal.com!news20.bellglobal.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in colleges and universities. References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:14:38 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.96.223.163 X-Complaints-To: abuse@sympatico.ca X-Trace: news20.bellglobal.com 1086711277 198.96.223.163 (Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:14:37 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:14:37 EDT Organization: Bell Sympatico Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1237 Date: 2004-06-08T12:14:38-04:00 List-Id: Peter C. Chapin wrote: > "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" wrote in news:iEZwc.6943 > $8k4.235178@news20.bellglobal.com: >>Sounds like universities suffer from the chicken and egg >>problem. > > In the late 1980's we taught Ada at Vermont Technical College (in the > computer engineering technology classes) as the student's first exposure ... > This was all fine, but the reality was that a huge majority of third party > programs the students had to read or modify were written in C. Also most > text books contained C examples. It soon became clear that we were not ... > Peter I think it has been recognized here, quite frequently, that we basically live in a "C world". So I could see that being a problem if you were continually interfacing with "the world" from Ada. Some time ago, there was some discussion here about how Ada binding could be more easily accomplished. What I would have expected however, was that there would be less need to bind to the "world" in academic exercises. One solution would have been to create the necessary bindings necessary for the students, to simplify that aspect. Of course, that only works, if the "need" remains relatively static. -- Warren W. Gay VE3WWG http://home.cogeco.ca/~ve3wwg