From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr21.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!4988f22a!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng References: <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <87is4598pm.fsf@insalien.org> <1110054476.533590@athnrd02> <1110059861.560004@athnrd02> <422b6d49.1141887367@news.xs4all.nl> <1110266099.441421.179290@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1110332933.587110.260410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110390097.532139.43430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <422f3808$0$30165$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> <1110409958.685759.249420@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <15SdnYvJ0_x3Vq3fRVn-3Q@megapath.net> <1110522060.091940.178510@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1110556346.841594.212520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4952804.Myubg7stsI@linux1.krischik.com> <1462853.JgxLXPrZ7W@linux1.krischik.com> <1110645475.497596@athnrd02> Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.164.118.168 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr21.news.prodigy.com 1111420141 ST000 64.164.118.168 (Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:49:01 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:49:01 EST Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com X-UserInfo1: TSU[@I_A\S@QBTLYYZH@^SXBUSXB@DTMNHWB_EYLJZ]BGIELCNVOPCWZBL[\YUWHANGYZEFNHFZPNLOBUNSS^_LGEVWEY\PHO@YJSSWBBDT\PFD^ESBTXVCCMTD]JCJLE\_IJMFNRY]SWE[S[D_CNB__ZK^VGVCKHA[S@COB^[@ZQSDFQ\BPMS@DZVUKQTJL Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:49:01 GMT Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9676 comp.lang.c++:46557 comp.realtime:1567 comp.software-eng:5167 Date: 2005-03-21T15:49:01+00:00 List-Id: "Ioannis Vranos" wrote in message news:1110645475.497596@athnrd02... > > There are compliance tests for C++ too. > True. However, I have never known a single DoD contractor to require a validated C++ compiler. I have never heard of a single DoD program manager who rquired a validated C++ compiler. If anyone did demand this level of rigor, there would be far less C++ used by DoD contractors, but there might also be some improvement, ultimately, in C++ compilers. If someone chooses Ada for a military project, one of the first questions from the program manager is, "Is the compiler validated?" Ada is almost always held to a higher standard that we other languages - and this is as it should be. Still, when we hold one development environment (an Ada compiler) to a higher standard, we need to understand that difference when making comparions. It costs a great deal more money to produce a compiler that must pass validation (now conformity) than to create one in which the defects are intended to be discovered by the users and fixed in some future release. Richard Riehle