From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,517611567e1815f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: pmartin@mail.earthlink.net (Pascal F. Martin) Subject: Re: Java momentum slowing ? Date: 1999/05/09 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 475907415 References: <372b0ec7.28153993@news2.ibm.net> <3728E60E.F789FD8@uq.net.au> <37299369.83779478@news2.ibm.net> <7gdlca$2j5l@drn.newsguy.com> <372f0ed9.104817048@news2.ibm.net> <7ghad5$1mma@drn.newsguy.com> <372d6106.5099983@news2.ibm.net> <7gsk7k$5fr@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <37333a43.181207462@news.mindspring.com> <7h399g$4nb@drn.newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: clnws01.we.mediaone.net 926274732 24.130.92.251 (Sun, 09 May 1999 11:32:12 PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 11:32:12 PDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1999-05-09T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <7h399g$4nb@drn.newsguy.com>, steve writes: > > I am finding that Ada is actually more portable than Java. > [...] > example: > > http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/cfparse > > You'll see the platform is windoz. but it is written in Java. > [...] > Java portability is a big spam. Ada is much much more portable > than Java will ever be. I would not start a flame war here, but do you know _any_ Ada standard for Graphical User Interface ? 8-{ Most of the time, people use bindings to X Windows (usually custom), which does not work on 95 or NT, or binding to win32, which does not work on UNIX. I have used a few Java (and written several Tcl/Tk) programs with a GUI which worked on both systems. I have, so far, never seen such a program from the Ada side. Portability is always a touchy issue: beyond the language, there is the environment, and it seems people confuse both. If a library exists in one environment only, using this library makes your program non portable. It does not matter how portable your language is. BTW, Ada is very poor when it comes to user interfaces tools: either you redo it yourself (hardware dependencies ?) or you use bindings for a specific OS (or OS family). At least Java is trying to solve this issue. -- Pascal F. Martin.