From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10ad19,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10ad19,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 11440e,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid11440e,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 107a89,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid107a89,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-05 05:13:57 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!isdnet!newsfeed.online.be!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!lnewspeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsifeed00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewspost00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!not-for-mail From: Jon Skeet Newsgroups: comp.lang.ruby,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.awk,comp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml Subject: Re: Long names are doom ? Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:13:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3B0DBD4A.82943473@my-deja.net> <3B0DD011.88FCD00E@acm.org> <83WP6.3874$yc6.728572@news.xtra.co.nz> <3B1411D0.3AAF42E7@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9f2nks$ibd$0@dosa.alt.net> <3B177EF7.2A2470F4@facilnet.es> <3B17B643.7150547F@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <3B17FE9F.3F959A26@ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9fih5m$lm1$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Organization: Peramon Technology Ltd. X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30 NNTP-Posting-Host: fw.peramon.com X-Trace: 991743235 reading.news.pipex.net 15028 193.132.195.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@uk.uu.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ruby:10382 comp.lang.ada:8140 comp.lang.awk:2759 comp.lang.clarion:21089 comp.lang.java.programmer:73633 comp.lang.pl1:753 comp.lang.vrml:3484 Date: 2001-06-05T13:13:51+01:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > Jon Skeet (skeet@pobox.com) wrote: > : Wes Groleau wrote: > > : The worst situation is when someone doesn't follow a convention *at > : all*, changing capitalisation etc at a whim - at that stage, you have to > : look up method names etc every time you want to use them. > > : > Any convention, enforced or not, for encoding information that is not > : > important is increasing the chance of being distracted from what IS > : > important. > > : So you believe that > > : package TeST;class SHowArGS{public static void main (String[]ARgS){for > : (int SOMeThINg=0;SOMeThINg : (ARgS[SOMeThINg]);}} > > : is *more* likely to create distraction than: > > What is important is not just syntax and letter case. E.g., > I've had no difficulties in reading and understanding your > example in the form above, left to right as in books. > (After all, letter case is an invention that came relatively > late in the use of latin alphabets, sometime after carolingean > minuscules in the 9c, I believe. (Side note: Serif Courier is very different > from sans serif Windoze Fixedsys, so whether it is easy > to distinguish characters in Marin's ll11l1 depends on the font...)) Why does when the date of the invention of letter case have anything to do with readability *now*? I found it *much* harder to write the above than the conventional version, as every time I wanted to use an argument, I had to *check* the case rather than being able to accurately guess it. > There is a distinction to be made between reading and inspecting. I'm not *entirely* sure what you mean here. When talking about human- readability of code, I suspect that "reading" is always used to mean "inspecting". > There is no use in using a tabular > layout when it is not useful as > it does not at all help readers, > but it is useful when you are inspecting interface definitions, say. True. When considering the readability of code, however, I suspect it's always helpful. -- Jon Skeet - skeet@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~skeet If replying to the group, please don't mail me at the same time