From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-27 06:00:03 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!193-152-74-254.uc.nombres.ttd.ES!not-for-mail From: Alejandro R. Mosteo <402450@cepsz.unizar.es> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Beginner's Language? Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:59:59 +0200 Organization: TruliSoft Corp. Message-ID: References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3AFACCA0.303A79AF@baesystems.com> <87oft0pi6x.fsf@frown.here> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193-152-74-254.uc.nombres.ttd.es (193.152.74.254) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 990968401 758770 193.152.74.254 (16 [49872]) X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7811 comp.lang.lisp:10795 Date: 2001-05-27T14:59:59+02:00 List-Id: Mmm... I've used many languages and Lisp was taught to me after two or three years of programming experience. I can't understand how anyone could defend Lisp as a first language. You can get crazy with the parentheses, the reference/no-reference things (setf, set...) Recursivity, lists in all places... Car and cdr... mapcar and friends... XD I admit: after some time, I get comfortable with Lisp. Even could say it is funny. But I know people that never was capable of fully understand what was happening in some of his own programs :-) Definitely, Lisp for a newbie on programming is... Oh, I have no words! Of course, this is a personal interpretation ;-) ------------------------------ Alejandro R. Mosteo mailto: 402450@cepsz.unizar.es ------------------------------