From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c4cb2c432feebd9d X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,c4cb2c432feebd9d X-Google-Thread: 101deb,15c6ed4b761968e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid1094ba,gid101deb,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!newsfeed-00.mathworks.com!lon-transit.news.telstra.net!lon-in.news.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-server.bigpond.net.au!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "robin" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.pl1 References: <0ugu4e.4i7.ln@hunter.axlog.fr> <%P_cg.155733$eR6.26337@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <6H9dg.10258$S7.9150@news-server.bigpond.net.au> <1hfv5wb.1x4ab1tbdzk7eN%nospam@see.signature> <20060712.7A4E6E0.D028@mojaveg.lsan.sisna <20060717.7A4ADD0.10B1A@mojaveg.lsan.sisna.com> <44bceab6$29$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net> Subject: Re: ONES COMPLEMENT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:41:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.54.188.20 X-Complaints-To: abuse@bigpond.net.au X-Trace: news-server.bigpond.net.au 1153316460 203.54.188.20 (Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:41:00 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 23:41:00 EST Organization: BigPond Internet Services Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5808 comp.lang.fortran:12221 comp.lang.pl1:2044 Date: 2006-07-19T13:41:00+00:00 List-Id: Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote in message <44bceab6$29$fuzhry+tra$mr2ice@news.patriot.net>... >In <20060717.7A4ADD0.10B1A@mojaveg.lsan.sisna.com>, on 07/17/2006 > at 06:26 PM, mojaveg@mojaveg.lsan.sisna.com (Everett M. Greene) >said: > >>"robin" writes: > >>> Some implementations of ones complement used two forms of >>> zero > >FSVO "some" equal to "all". Not all. >>>which required two tests. > >That makes no sense. One test for all bits zero, the other required for all ones. >>A properly designed 1s complement machine would not >>generate -0 in normal arithmetic operations. > >0+(-0)? > >>Thus, no need to perform a program check for -0. > >I never saw a need to test for it regardless. Every 1s complement >machine I know of lets you test for zero in a single instruction. (-0) looked like a negative value on some machines. >>> How many machines now offer ones complement arithmetic? > >Before the S/360 captured the market there were large numbers of >machines in the lines started with the CDC 160, CDC 6660 and the >UNIVAC 1107. The shift seemed to be a copycat issue more than a >technological one.