From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7ee10ec601726fbf X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-30 07:08:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!207.115.63.138!newscon04.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr30.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Pat Rogers" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3BC30674.BA88AAB6@brighton.ac.uk> <9pvv3t$ves$1@news.huji.ac.il> <3BC5D730.DA950CC7@boeing.com> <9q4pa7$1ad$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BC6ACC8.23EF21BC@free.fr> <3BC71F54.1FFE78FA@boeing.com> <1KGx7.26476$ev2.35117@www.newsranger.com> <3BC7AD82.2A0CCCD4@acm.org> <9qhiqr$af0$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <1nDC7.180$6S7.92255364@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com> <9rjsak$bp3$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Subject: Re: why not X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.191.176.121 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr30.news.prodigy.com 1004454443 ST000 208.191.176.121 (Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:07:23 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:07:23 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: TSU[@I_A\S@USVT^ORHL_IXBUSXHQD\MNPWZKB]MPXHBTWICYFWUQBKZQLYJX\_ITFD_KFVLUN[DOM_A_NSYNWPFWNS[XV\I]PZ@BQ[@CDQDPCL^FKCBIPC@KLGEZEFNMDYMKHRL_YYYGDSSODXYN@[\BK[LVTWI@AXGQCOA_SAH@TPD^\AL\RLGRFWEARBM Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:07:23 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:15413 Date: 2001-10-30T15:07:23+00:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:9rjsak$bp3$1@nh.pace.co.uk... > Well, that's a bit of a disappointment. There is still some hope that the vendors will support it -- they probably have not seen the question on Team Ada. I will attempt to contact them individually, particulary the ones I know personally. > While I understand a reluctance to distribute someone else's software - > especially if it is unsupported - you have to wonder how any sort of > standard utilities are supposed to make it into the language with that sort > of policy. Its too hard - and probably undesirable - to try to get some > specifications into the ARM. The vendors may all have their own utilities > they are trying to hawk, but that leaves the end user adopting something > that ties them to a vendor. To my knowledge there are no such components, and that is part of the problem: a perceived lack of customer interest. Overall, I believe that is indeed the problem to be addressed -- the customers are not asking for it -- and that is why I am trying to generate some movement in the customer base. I see the sequence of necessary events in the opposite order as do you: if we want a common components library, and settled on one, and then started asking for vendor "support", they would provide it. -- --- Patrick Rogers Consulting and Training in: http://www.classwide.com Real-Time/OO Languages progers@classwide.com Hard Deadline Schedulability Analysis (281)648-3165 Software Fault Tolerance