From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,db9a11afb3da4240 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 102b75,501ec19d1d81daee X-Google-Attributes: gid102b75,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-03-27 04:14:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.arch,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Cost of Ada support Date: 27 Mar 2002 06:13:53 -0600 Organization: LJK Software Message-ID: References: < <3C9DBCEC.6820090E@earthlink.net> <$zjU3lVSbGVB@eisner.encompasserve.org> <0au1augta4utpds3g4bcb0h0oqcidpc5g2@4ax.com> <3CA0FEDF.BF6F2C55@raytheon.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1017231235 1619 192.135.80.34 (27 Mar 2002 12:13:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 12:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch:25956 comp.lang.ada:21720 Date: 2002-03-27T06:13:53-06:00 List-Id: In article <3CA0FEDF.BF6F2C55@raytheon.com>, Mark Johnson writes: > Adam Tissa wrote: >> >> "Steve Doiel" wrote: >> >> >"Larry Kilgallen" wrote in message >> >> > I would strongly suggest you contact sales@gnat.com to get the actual >> >> > cost of ACT support for GNAT. "Six figures per seat" is inaccurate >> >> > almost to the point of libel. >> >> Sorry, I should have said that the minimum cost is six figures per >> year. >> [snip] > Not true. As Larry said before, I suggest you call ACT for pricing. I am > renewing annual support for well less that $100K US for support of > 50-100 software developers. I would more likely believe the $12k figure > you quote is for all 10 developers (not per developer). > >> For someone who just needs a license for one or two programmers, the >> effective cost is the cost for 10 seats. > Agreed. That is part of the pricing they chose to implement. They > explained the reasoning to me - perhaps you can ask to get the same > answer... There was a quoting error above -- it was not I who said to call ACT. I see nothing wrong with calling ACT, but for an explanation of that reasoning no confidential phone discussion is required. Answering a question at a recent Boston lecture, Robert Dewar said their pricing model is based on experience that supporting a single developer on the average is more expensive than supporting ten developers, since that single developer has nobody local from whom they can get advice. > If you need the support and its worth say 8 weeks of labor to > pay for it, go ahead and do so. If not, ask questions on c.l.a or go to > another vendor. I think even those of us who do not use their compiler feel it is a priority for ACT to stay in business. And Robert Dewar has pointed out that if someone else wants to get into the business of lower-priced GNAT support for smaller numbers of users it is perfectly legal for them to do so.