Erlo Haugen wrote: > So, us morons who don't have have university degree shouldn't be allowed > to use Ada? In my experience, education has little to do with it. The qualities that distinguish SW engineers from coders seem to be intrinsic. No amount of education will convince most coders to use Ada, while those who have the makings of SW engineers tend to adopt it once they become aware of it. I certainly don't object to coders using Ada. > Anything popular is badly designed, is that Your view? From the point of view of SW engineering that tends to be true. C may be perfectly designed from a coders' perspective.