From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5dadc78d94298b82 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-13 07:32:41 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!feed-out.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!feed.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison Sender: usenet@www.newsranger.com References: <3A872501.1186F238@uol.com.br> <96926f$7m1$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Misconception about Ada? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 15:31:54 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com X-Trace: www.newsranger.com 982078314 127.0.0.1 (Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:31:54 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:31:54 EST Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:5219 Date: 2001-02-13T15:31:54+00:00 List-Id: In article , Brian Rogoff says... >On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:15:21 GMT, Ted Dennison wrote: >> >I learned that term as more like someone who subscribes to the "just >> >make it work" philosophy. As such, it is not a kind term, or a term that >> >would describe most Ada enthusiasts. >> > .. >When I was an an undergrad it meant someone who got explored tunnels and >buildings, often bypassing security. A computer hacker was someone who >explored computers, and built things, it was pretty much positive. Here's Interesting difference. I assume you picked this up from your Computer Science department? It also occurs to me that I had a freshman engineering chemistry professor from some scandanavian country (old as dirt, and ornery as a mule) who used to throw the term "hackers" at the class as an epithet all the time. I never did quite figure out exactly what he was trying to imply, but perhaps that also predisposed me against the term. >... I think Ada is an even better "hacking" (and I use this in the sense >you seem to be using it, coding with little design) language than C, since >Ada's safety measures allow you to hack away with less debugging effort. *Nothing* saves the "hacker" (my sense), short of a transfer. :-) However, I'd think Ada would be particularly annoying for them, as the typing system requires a certain amount of thinking ahead in order to prevent you from painting yourself into a corner. In fact, we have in the past heard from a "hacker" in this very newsgroup who complained that this damn language won't let them just write stuff without sitting down and thinking about what they are doing first. :-) --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com