From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,bc1361a952ec75ca X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,582dff0b3f065a52 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-08-07 09:12:27 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.bc.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: kaz@ashi.footprints.net (Kaz Kylheku) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: How Ada could have prevented the Red Code distributed denial of service attack. References: <3b690498.1111845720@news.worldonline.nl> <9kbu15$9bj@augusta.math.psu.edu> <9kbvsr$a02@augusta.math.psu.edu> <3B69DB35.4412459E@home.com> <3B6F312F.DA4E178E@home.com> Organization: Psycho-Neurotic Institute for the Very, Very Nervous Reply-To: kaz@ashi.footprints.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.3 (Linux) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 16:12:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.68.85.82 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.bc.home.com 997200746 24.68.85.82 (Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:12:26 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 09:12:26 PDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11507 comp.lang.c:72700 comp.lang.c++:80667 Date: 2001-08-07T16:12:26+00:00 List-Id: In article , Larry Kilgallen wrote: >In article , kaz@ashi.footprints.net (Kaz Kylheku) writes: >> In article <3B6F312F.DA4E178E@home.com>, Warren W. Gay VE3WWG wrote: >>>The STL is not used in all contexts (it's just not practical). If you call >>>pipe(2), you will not be using a vector from the STL. You'll use a naked >>>int[2] array. This is only one example. >> >> Note that pipe() is an entry point into a POSIX operating system. Unless >> you have POSIX Ada bindings, you are going to have to use the C interface >> to call this thing at some point. The same goes for whatever programming >> language you are using. > >POSIX is not an operating system. I didn't say it was. It's an interface. >What makes you think I am going to call POSIX at some point ? I didn't bring up POSIX. The claim was made that C++ programs call the POSIX function, thereby using an usafe C array. So what if C++ programs don't call POSIX? >I have not done so as yet, after 13 years of Ada programming. >Can you tell me when this will happen ? When you write a useful piece of software that runs on a mainstream operating system? You set yourself up for that one! :)