From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-14 00:22:19 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone-sjo1.usenetserver.com!news-out-sjo.usenetserver.com!e420r-sjo4.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Jorn W Janneck" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <7iurft0hbh4ilp040t9vob6bmhbfsavgkb@4ax.com> Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Organization: UC Berkeley X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 07:21:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.3.201.50 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com 989824874 65.3.201.50 (Mon, 14 May 2001 00:21:14 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 00:21:14 PDT Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7477 comp.lang.lisp:9988 comp.lang.smalltalk:9651 comp.lang.functional:5619 comp.lang.scheme:3780 comp.lang.perl:2725 Date: 2001-05-14T07:21:14+00:00 List-Id: "raj" wrote in message news:7iurft0hbh4ilp040t9vob6bmhbfsavgkb@4ax.com... > >what good does it do to remember this, precisely? it seems that this tells > >me as much about the austrian educational system as, say, an account of the > >australian history with, for instance, a special focus on the fate of the > >indigenous population after the arrival of the british tells me about what > >goes on in the schools down under. i.e., nothing. > > Actually the attempted genocide of the Aboriginal population of > Australia by the British is still a hot topic here. Australia Day ( > January 26th) , is called Invasion Day by the native Australians. > > Pauline Hanson, our home grown version of Haider is well known for her > anti-Aboriginal stance ( and anti Chinese and anti-Asian and ...) > > Remembering is ultimately the only defence we have. nice tactics. but i had specifically challenged your attempt to make a connection between the characteristics of a country's (austria's, specifically) educational system and a short list of people of questionable character or at least somewhat, uhum, controversial political views, that presumably went through it. i agree with you on the value of memory in general. maybe you just apologize to the austrians for this somewhat thoughtless remark of yours, i am sure you did mean no harm. best regards, -- j