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From: Per Sandberg <per.sandberg@bredband.net>
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Subject: Re: A scary story from the real world.
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Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:15:10 +0100
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Jerry wrote:
> On Nov 9, 10:33 am, Per Sandberg <per.sandb...@bredband.net> wrote:
>> I was on a conference this week and that opened my eyes on the complete
>> ignorance of good compilers and languages in some the Reliable SW
>> communities.
>>    http://www.issre2007.hv.se/extra/pod/
>> There was lots of talks about on how to detect values out of bounds and
>> other problems that reasonable languages with type-system would find
>> probably at compile time.
>>
>> One Microsoft person said "we had lots of crashes in the system and the
>> cause of that was that the driver vendors did not look on the return
>> code from functions"
>> Then the blamed the poor programmer for not reading the secret "users
>> manual".
>> /Per
> 
> Was Ada even mentioned?
> Jerry
> 
> 

No !
And that was what i found scary.
 From my perspective the whole conference was about how to we make the 
best out after we have crashed instead of how do we avoid to crash.

I mentioned Ada in connection to the Microsoft talk and the comment from 
the Microsoft person was something along the lines
  Ada is never going to make it and I and don't believe in it.
I wont quite since i don't remember the exact worthing.

/Per