From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-18 07:49:42 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy From: Ted Dennison References: <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:49:13 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:49:13 GMT Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!feed.textport.net!news.bnb-lp.com!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8845 comp.lang.java.programmer:77138 comp.lang.pl1:1084 comp.lang.vrml:3859 comp.lang.java.advocacy:21380 Date: 2001-06-18T14:49:13+00:00 List-Id: In article , Roedy Green says... > >On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:43:52 GMT, Ed Jensen >wrote or quoted : > >>The GPL is merely an >>attempt to enforce their manifesto through brilliant viral-like >>propagation. > >My own equivalent is the "for non military use only" clause applied to >all the source I write. That's actually more restrictive than the GPL in many ways. I can and do use GPL code on military projects. Mostly the GPL just requires that they get the source, and don't deny it to anyone they give the software to. Since the military requires the sources anyway, and refuses to give out the software in most cases, they are quite compatabile with the GPL. I believe discriminating aginst users automaticly renders software "non-free" too. However, I understand where you are comming from. I've done DoD work all my career, and I can feel good that most of my work (particularly the simulator stuff) actually saves lives. But there are just some jobs even I can't rationalize away enough to accept. (The tank simulator for the Chineese govt. approx. 3 years after the Tianamen massacre being a prime example). --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com