From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, PP_MIME_FAKE_ASCII_TEXT autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 103376,60e2922351e0e780 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-15 18:28:58 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!in.100proofnews.com!in.100proofnews.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Stephane Richard" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3FB1609E.D56E315C@fakeaddress.nil> Subject: Re: Clause "with and use" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 02:28:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.149.78.211 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1068949737 141.149.78.211 (Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:28:57 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:28:57 EST Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:2529 Date: 2003-11-16T02:28:57+00:00 List-Id: "Frank J. Lhota" wrote in message news:bp6mcr$2uc$1@bob.news.rcn.net... > > I've done that a lot in my C++ code. In the C++ community, the "using" > declaration is even more controversial than the "use" clause is in the Ada > community. I have programmed for groups where using "using" is prohibited > unless absolutely necessary. > > You can do stream program without "using", but that involves writing > std::cout, std::flush, std::endl, etc., not to mention appending std to > every identifier from the STL. > > If Russ dislikes the clutter caused by matching "with" and "use" clauses in > Ada, he'd be appalled at what often goes on in the C++ community! > > I hear ya :-). -- St�phane Richard "Ada World" Webmaster http://www.adaworld.com