From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 111d6b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid111d6b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,8775b19e3c68a5dc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 1094ba,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid1094ba,public X-Google-Thread: 10d15b,328622178ec8b832 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d15b,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,a03ae7f4e53958e1 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: Jedi__Master@a.galaxy.far.far.away.com (Jedi) Subject: Re: Which language pays most -- C++ vs. Java? Date: 1998/01/06 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 313260388 References: <67et6o$dql@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <882757510snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <67ktrg$ibk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <883319809snz@genesis.demon.co.uk> <68bt2p$d48@lotho.delphi.com> <34a991f0.2379476@news.diac.com> <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net> <01bd198f$4050d960$68c8b5cc@dhite.unicomp.net> Organization: The Rebellion Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.misc,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-01-06T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Dan" wrote: > John Slaman wrote in article > <68dm0i$brv1@news.fiberlink.net>... > > > > Microsoft's Visual Basic 5 > > > > Words of caution > > - you will never be respected (and rightly so) > > - it doesn't pay much (because you'll be competing with people with no > > degrees and non-Computer Science degrees who are self taught, and the This is not true, in our shop the COBOL programmers and the VB programmers are paid the same. Anyone with knowlege and skill is respected. We encourage cross-training at all levels. There is movement usually from COBOL programmer to VB programmer. I haven't seen any return back once they leave the Mainframe developing arena. One thing I have seen is once a COBOL programmer learns VB, there seems to more of a chance of that programmer finding a better position with another company. Learning VB will definitely add to your worth as a programmer. > people > > doing the hiring don't value the process of software engineering). > > The majority of our people who are hiring were once programmers. > > - Never respected by clods like you perhaps. You don't know what you are > talking about. > - The pay is excellent IF you know what you are doing and are not just > another bozo who read a 21 days book. New Technology + High demand = $$$. You have to start somewhere. > If you can architect enterprise scale n-tier solutions with VB you can > write your own ticket right now. You don't know what you are talking > about.