From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f3f9104dada53163 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria.organon.com (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: An interesting quote on Java and C++ Date: 1997/09/12 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 271746866 Distribution: world References: <5ujjvq$t4s@drn.zippo.com> <01bcb881$915526a0$d7000064@sim01.amst.co.at> <34157a82.81185415@news.mindspring.com> <34160feb.36797713@news.mindspring.com> Organization: PSINet Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-09-12T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Robert sez, > be careful not to compare the reality of Ada with the Sun (and > other) hype on Java. In the current state of things, Java is nowhere > NEAR as portable as Ada, it is almost the normal case that an applet > of any complexity written on one platform is likely not to work on > another platform. In our experience, this is putting the situation quite generously. The stuff doesn't even work across releases or other JVMs on the _same_ platform. > Of course you can say, well that's because the implementations are > decrepit, just wait and see, but then we are back to talking about > implementatins and not languages. Right (or at least I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one for a while longer...) > As for security, this is a matter of implementation, not the language. > Indeed, there are all kinds of Java restrictions that must be adhered > to for secure applet delivery that are not enforced by Java itself. > And of coruse if you use an Ada->JVM system, then by definition this > has the same level of security, since the security is implemented at > the JVM level, not at the Java level. Agreed. /Jon -- Jon Anthony OMI, Belmont, MA 02178, 617.484.3383 "Nightmares - Ha! The way my life's been going lately, Who'd notice?" -- Londo Mollari