From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,1042f393323e22da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: Any research putting c above ada? Date: 1997/05/02 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 239074418 Distribution: world References: <5ih6i9$oct$1@waldorf.csc.calpoly.edu> <33674E4C.446B@cca.rockwell.com> <5k88b3$340@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <3368A6FE.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> <5kaqd4$m9b@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <3369FCAF.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-05-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <3369FCAF.41C6@cca.rockwell.com> Roy Grimm writes: > "We're teaching Computer Science here. If you want engineering, go to > an engineering school." That's the prevailing attitude with many of the > CompSci programs at small liberal arts colleges. They teach the > "science" of programming almost as a subfield of Mathematics. The This is actually very apropos to the problem. Most of what passes as so called "computer science" is just watered down mathematics - discrete mathematics (asymptotic algorithm analysis is fundamentally various techniques of counting, i.e., a bit of combinatorics) and some bits of formal logics (which is where the oft mentioned "halting problem" and such comes from.) Take this away and you don't have much left - unless you have the _application_ of that mathematics, i.e., software engineering. Well, there is the AI camp, but there too, if you look at what much of this is, it's being/been covered by philosophers and CogScis (and often with rather more perspicacity). > theorists but poor software developers. Granted, there are > exceptions to this very broad generalization, but not too many of > them make themselves widely known in the midwest. >From what's been said in this thread, this actually sounds rather more universal a problem. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com