From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd6dd,c78177ec2e61f4ac X-Google-Attributes: gidfd6dd,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,c78177ec2e61f4ac X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria.organon.com (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: ada and robots Date: 1997/06/05 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 246175210 References: <338CDA96.53EA@halcyon.com> <338F5D7D.6C03@tiac.net> <338F9D05.5EB3@bix.com> <5mqpj3$bc5$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> <33930245.12A1@sprintmail.com> <5mv984$7kn@news.emi.com> Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Newsgroups: comp.robotics.misc,comp.lang.ada Date: 1997-06-05T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: > memory correctly. Ada95 is claimed to be better, but I don't have > any direct experience with it. Significantly better. Quite different. > Actually, not many people do just yet. Au contrair - many are using it. Get it _free_ if you like (binaries for most everything) at ftp://cs.nyu.edu/pub/gnat/ > I suspect that most people are using C (perhaps called from Ada) for > direct control of I/O hardware and the like. Well, that's also quite possible as Ada95 provides out of the box standard built in connection to C (and Fortran). > Not all Ada compilers offer adequate support for such mixed-language All Ada95 compilers do. > VxWorks system, let alone execute the code and debug. Insisting on a true > and accurate demo saved our butts.) Sound enough advice. You can check this for yourself with Ada95 via the free (industrial strength, I might add) compilers mentioned above. > likely cause the Ada compiler and tools market to shrink to perhaps as > little as one tenth of its prior size, and that significant added > investment in Ada compilers and tools is therefore unlikely, at least Nothing like good ol' FUD. These 1/10's and 1/100's are just pulled from where the sun doesn't shine. Where are the studies? Quote them please. > until the size of the remaining market becomes clear. A significant > shrink is widely expected By who (or is that "whom"?)? In any event, the opposite has seemed to have been happening. This is largely the result of free and cheap compilers with full typical Windoze IDEs - check Aonix for example: http://www.thomsoft.com/Products/Ada/ada.html Also, only in the land of software would anyone actually suggest that one should not use a better tool, technique, process, whatever to build your product, because most of your _competition_ is using the inferior tool, technique, process, whatever. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com