From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,b87849933931bc93 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: OO, C++, and something much better! Date: 1997/01/27 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 212719637 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 1997-01-27T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <32EB753C.678B@jmpstart.com> James O'Connor writes: > Curious, was the catastophe because of Smalltalk? Or because of bad > design/requirements analysis? Or lousy people. Or more to the point, feckless management. This is what it basically always comes down to. > I would be more inclined to guess the > later. Like the Arianne V that blew up awhile back? Wasn't that > written in Ada? Was it because it was written in Ada or becuase the > designer made a mistake. I would be inclined to think it was the > designer's fault, not the languages. Yup. Well, actually, again it was _management_ that decided against certain recommendations and didn't bother requiring full scale testing of software that had never before been tried in the environment in which it was being "reused". > I do, however, think that Alan's point is that some big people with a > lot of money and a lot at stake have decided that Smalltalk is a viable > solution for that environment. And I would guess that under various scenarios in that environment, it _is_. In fact, I'd go further and say that there is undoubtedly a class of these where it is the _best_ viable alternative. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com