From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3ccb707f4c91a5f2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: Java vs Ada 95 (Was Re: Once again, Ada absent from DoD SBIR solicitation) Date: 1996/10/18 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 190429344 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: <325BC3B3.41C6@hso.link.com> organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-10-18T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) writes: > In article dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > > > "The funny thing is, no one would be forcing it on them. This is the > > same sort of goofy situation as occured for pragma Assert. Hey, a) > > it's optional, b) if you don't want it, don't use it." > > > > > > That is a principle often appealed to in the language design process "Hey, > > put in my pet feature, you don't have to use it if you don't need it." > > > > This is an invalid principle. It is important to remember that every feature > > Yes, yes, of course. But you are pulling one of your Strawman > arguments here. Sure, in general you can't allow this. But clearly > it makes sense for those cases which are highly desireable but are > blocked for some rather specific sort of reason attached to a certain > highly vocal (probably) minority view. Ooops, forgot an important point: "put in my pet feature, you don't have to use it ..." is not only irrelevant strawman here, it is just plain inaccurate. There is no suggestion of requiring GC (or even Assert). So, no one would even have to implement the thing. Just that there would be a) a stronger expectation and b) if implemented it would have at least some regularity across implementations. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com