From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,9923b1c3be80099b X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: Ada and Mac (Was: New version of AppletMagic) Date: 1996/10/14 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 189439080 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-10-14T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <53mdal$6t8@felix.seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes: > Jon S Anthony wrote: > > >And that's just fine. What would seem like the more sensible road > >here would be to put together a Thomson style deal (where ObjectAda > >uses the AdaMagic frontend, but Thomson BE, IDE, etc). This has > >produced one of the (maybe _the_) most impressive Ada offering to > >date. Question is, who is the Thomson equivalent for the Mac in such > >a scenario??? > > There is none; that is the problem. Thomson is an "Ada company." > The Ada companies (Thomson, Rational, Intermetrics) look at the Mac > and say "nah, small market." > [....] > The Mac companies (Symantec, MetroWerks) look at Ada and say > "nah, small market." And therein lies the deadly embrace. Sounds like an opportunity for a new company which sees the possibilities of both sides. > Part of the intent of the Academic Ada contract was to break the > deadlock by using some government dollars to seed the development of > a proprietary, commercialized, Ada 95 compiler for the Mac (and for > Win 95, but that's not at issue here). Intermetrics won the contract, > but then (apparently) looked at the Mac and said "nah, small market," > got the government to agree to a contract mod, and walked away from > the Mac. And that is just fine. I don't see where the contract was: "Ada on the Mac". > Something will have to happen to dispel the perception on both sides > that this is not a worthwhile market to enter. I happen to think the It's either a correct perception or it is not. If it is, then I suppose things will never change. If not, then it would seem that this is indeed an opportunity for a new company which would take the AdaMagic front end and someone elses backend and add the value added to glue them together in a nice Mac environment. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com