From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a3ca574fc2007430 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 115aec,f41f1f25333fa601 X-Google-Attributes: gid115aec,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: Ada and Automotive Industry Date: 1996/11/27 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 200944179 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: <55ea3g$m1j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3280DA96.15FB@hso.link.com> organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.realtime Date: 1996-11-27T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article ken@nrtt.demon.co.uk (Ken Tindell) writes: > In article > dewar@merv.cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) wrote: > > Well I do not think you know enough about GCC or GNAT for your skeptical > > viewpoint to be significant. I still have seen no one make a cogent > > technical argument that supports this viewpoint. Ken says that it > > must be impossible because he saw one half baked poor attempt, you > > sayt that you are skeptical without even that much to back up your > > skepticism. > > I should be very careful about calling people's software half-baked > merely because it doesn't perform very well. A case of one kitchen > utensil calling another "black"... Well, I _SERIOUSLY_ doubt this. Who was this "other people"??? > > As to the huge market opportunity, I do not see it at all. You cannot > > guage a particular Ada market by counting the number of processors sold, > > If I recall the start of this, some people from the Ada community > were suggesting that the automotive industry all adopt Ada for their > hardware. Now the argument appears to be that the automotive industry > shouldn't use Ada because there aren't going to be any compilers... Part of the problem here is that you don't appear to be able to _read_. The point being made by RD and others is not that the auto industry shouldn't use Ada because there aren't going to be compilers (after all there are some) but rather the compiler vendors should not/cannot care much about the auto industry because there will not be much different projects there to make enough sales of compilers to make it worth the effort to pursue them. I'm not sure if this is true or not. Whether the auto industry _should_ use Ada is an entirely different proposition all together. Someone thought they could make good use of Ada for their "real time work". I tend to agree with this (having done some work at GM labs on a research project for building a IDE for such work). But trying to convince them of this is pointless and not worth the effort in any case. There really just isn't enough work there to worry about it one way or the other. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com