From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d51051a623c1e2d0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: decline of Ada? Date: 1996/11/14 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 196345587 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: <199611121040.FAA16264@bb.iu.net> organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada 06: 27:20 +0500 Date: 1996-11-14T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <199611121040.FAA16264@bb.iu.net> "Sam Harbaugh: Palm Bay, Florida" writes: > >Could be, but really, Ada has to make it in the commercial market > >independent of so called "mandates" (which were never enforced > >anyway). So, this could actually be a _good_ thing for Ada - the less > >association with the government the better :-) > > I am told that Oracle says that in two years Java will be the standard data > base language (rather than SQL). Of course Microsoft may say otherwise. I > am also told that Oracle had 15,000 attendees at Mosconi Center in San > Francisco at last week's Oracle World (or whatever they called it). Compare > this with Tri-Ada attendance. What on Earth has this got to do with the above? > There are technical and cultural reasons* why Java is the current > emerging commercial language. These same reasons preclude Ada from > that area. I guess that in 20 years there will be technical and > cultural reasons why Java will have plateaued (is there such a > word?) and another language is taking its place. I suppose. Of course, 2 years ago, people were saying the exact same thing about C++. Now, only a couple years later, we have it that Java is somehow the "current emerging commercial language" and sacred cow (I mean, really - where did you get that 20 year thing??? Hell, in two years there could be Simba which will clearly be the "current emerging commercial language") > >Part of the problem is that the DoD never really gave Ada much support > >yet tainted it's image by associating it with "the government". > > In my opinion it is not a "problem", just a "situation". OK. > In my opinion the DoD gave Ada a GREAT DEAL of support. I meant after the fact. It's sort of like the "their support begins at xxx and ends at yyy"... > of the Government? The DoD had Ada built to specification to solve > their problem, not the problems of the commercial sector. Same with the Internet, KC135, 747, COBOL, etc., etc., etc. Clearly, this line of thought is severely flawed. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com