From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,99ab4bb580fc34cd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@organon.com (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: Q: access to subprogram Date: 1996/07/15 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 168366145 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: <4rb9dp$qe6@news1.delphi.com> organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-07-15T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article dewar@cs.nyu.edu (Robert Dewar) writes: > Whether this concern is legitimate or not probably can't be settled without > some hard data on existing Ada programs (what you need is dynamic traces > that show how many calls are to outer level procedures, and how many >...[sort of data needed] > can factor out optimization effects). As is clear from the thread, Jon > and I simply disagree on the bottom line here, but I don't think any > more arguments without data can illuminate this discussion further (it > is by the way a *very* old discussion). At the risk of starting another branch in this goofy thread, you are quite correct here in that to some extent this aspect of the discussion has been a case of "arguing in a vacuum. I suppose at this point Jay Martin would start blow torching academics for this, but it is curious that this sort of thing is not given much attention despite the fact that it does have real world impact and would appear to be very important. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. 1 Williston Road, Suite 4 Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com