From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,df854b5838c3e14 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public From: jsa@organon.com (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: C/C++ knocks the crap out of Ada Date: 1996/02/22 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 140680522 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: <00001a73+00002504@msn.com> <4etcmm$lpd@nova.dimensional.com> followup-to: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1996-02-22T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <4gejp7$o23@mailhub.scitec.com.au> ramsesy@rd.scitec.com.au (Ramses Youhana) writes: Ramses, > Since I posted the above, I've been flamed by every man and his dog. :-) > The comment was based on something I was told at UNI by one of the > lecturers, and not out of my own experience. Yes, it is highly unfortunate that people in "positions of authority or power" should pontificate on things they know absolutely nothing about. I suppose this is just one more piece of evidence suggesting that so called "authorities" are to be questioned at every point. It is unfortunate that it has come to this, but it appears to be true... > particular, one who stated that I could probably learn Ada in about > one week. Same comment applies. This is just pure baloney. You can learn the core of the language (C/Pascal equivalent) in somewhat less time than learning Pascal (due to the more regular syntax and semantics). I really don't believe that you can learn all of Pascal (and actually know it) in "about one week". > in learning it. Can anyone suggest any good books on it (one that > reasonably priced) and possibly a good compiler for a PC. Also, Well, two excellent books would be John Barnes's Programming in Ada95, Addison Wesley; and Norman Cohen's Ada as a Second Language (the new edition covering Ada95). Both are probably going to run around US$45.00. As for a compiler, you are in good luck. A couple options are Gnat (download your favorite machine binary version for free from cs.nyu.edu pub/gnat [includeing Win/95, Win/Nt, OS/2, DOS] and make sure you pick up the emacs mode or M. Felman's GWU Turbo-like environment) or Thompson's ActivAda or ObjectAda (beta test) for under US$100.00. There are many others. Also, for all sorts of information like this check out the Ada WWW home page: http://lglwww.epfl.ch/Ada/ > according to many of the postings, I'm being given the impression > that there are plenty of engineering jobs for Ada. I've been > looking in the job ads (in Sydney, Australia) and I can't seem to > find many Ada jobs (as compared with C and C/C++ jobs) for > engineers. I'm interested to know where these jobs are. Unfortunately, this topic generally generates only flames and other irrational comments. IMO, the exact situation is very unclear, but it seems there are (in general) more Ada positions than qualified people to fill them. /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. 1 Williston Road, Suite 4 Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com