From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,59f7ca851a394aa3 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) Subject: Re: Reasons NOT To Choose Ada Date: 1996/12/10 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 203396713 sender: news@organon.com (news) references: <32872161.19FE@eurocontrol.fr> organization: Organon Motives, Inc. newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-12-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article <58hgs4$s0e@news.structured.net> cts@alpinet.com (Craig Spannring) writes: > jsa@alexandria (Jon S Anthony) wrote: > > >In article <1996Dec4.190401.1@eisner> kilgallen@eisner.decus.org (Larry Kilgallen) writes: > > >> In article , dmiller@cybo.com (Dana Miller) writes: > >> > In article <57vknm$r3c@news.structured.net>, cts@alpinet.com (Craig > >> > Spannring) wrote: > >> > >> >> You might want to check out Object Ada from Thompson. They have some > >> >> sort of visual layout program in their professional edition. I > >> >> haven't tried it out since I'm being paid to do C++ and $595 is a bit > >> >> steep for a toy to use at home. > > >Another point worth mentioning in this context is that the $595 price > >for ObjectAda is for the _professional_ version (even includes > >ClearCase CMS for crying out loud). The _personal_ version (which > >doesn't look too toy like either) is $245. As pointed out below, to > >get a _professional_ level MSVC++ is over the $1000.00 mark (last I > >looked) - and I _believe_ the compiler is the same piece of rubbish as > >what you get for the $600.00. > > Note I said, "I'm being paid to do C++" and "toy to use at home". I > think that $595 is a very low price, but since my employer has no > interest in Ada I would only be able to use it for my own pet > projects. Since _I_ could only use it for playing at home, (nobody is > offering to pay me for Ada code), $595 could better be used for > upgrading my mountain bike, getting a new pair of skis, etc. Now if > someone were to offer to pay me to write Ada code I'd order a copy > before you could even blink. Fair enough. I mean I don't even _have_ a computer at home - can't stand the things actually, ;^). But, if it is just to "fool around with", then the personal edition should be fine. Of course, it's probably just as likely that the $245 would be more fun spent on xxx too. In fact, given this caveat I'm not convinced even a _free_ version would be "worth it". > A toy is something I want that I can't get my employer to buy. First rule in good domain analysis is to get the lexicon straight...:-| /Jon -- Jon Anthony Organon Motives, Inc. Belmont, MA 02178 617.484.3383 jsa@organon.com