From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5faad1722103f6a7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:01:13 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:01:12 -0400 From: "Robert I. Eachus" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: non sequitur References: <40B8C86A.3050302@noplace.com> <40BE6BFD.8030305@noplace.com> <40BF141F.8020001@noplace.com> <40C38E7C.64564F@notes.udayton.edu> <28rfc01rhesdk2qt27krrr65nnk0n0kihc@4ax.com> In-Reply-To: <28rfc01rhesdk2qt27krrr65nnk0n0kihc@4ax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.147.90.114 X-Trace: sv3-5fHoagEAIAlzPLpvHvmix1A5HaLXU8ksO/2Cc78ql1oRjepiE3AMHeoXL7I0c7F2J53WoeCecvvw0a/!yRn7T8CqxDBL1DuPi9iuOC5UzvmAzFho3/Z3Ew77T8aGB8frEsv4TCwLmHE8mw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:1411 Date: 2004-06-11T23:01:12-04:00 List-Id: Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > My condolences Why? When we were validating the Ada compiler, I spent some time doing tuning on a 9x system (DPS6-96 I think). But aside from that I did all my development work on Multics. I really feel sorry for anyone who had to use a Level-6 or DPS-6 system running Mod 400 that one of a (very) few people hadn't set up for doing so. The 'normal' settings of Mod 400 made it dog slow as a development system. I went out to Minneapolis to help do that for the system some Ada people used. If you knew which parameters to twiddle you could get impressive performance out of Mod 400. We ran the entire Ada validation suite in around 4 hours on the 9x system, and we ran it on the whole line during the official validation, although it took a lot longer on the DPS-6/22 and /3x machines. > It worked nicely -- until it got warm. Then the circuit card > would sag, breaking contact with the edge connectors, and leaving the > mainframe thinking it had idle connections on one side, and lots of > terminals thinking they had slow connections on the other... It sounds like the Level 6 you had was installed outside a climate controlled environment. When Honeywell had some initial problems on a system for the Navy, they found out that probably 95% of Level 6 systems were installed in the same room as a climate-controlled mainframe. If you had one of what we called the 5x series processors, you could have exactly that problem. The DPS-6 system that replaced it was fine, but for the 9x systems climate control was made a requirement. (Of course, they were really 32-bit mainframes with the 16-bit Level-6/DPS-6 instruction set supported, about equivalent to a VAX 11/785.) A couple of other funny (or nasty now) stories. When we did the Ada compiler validation, we were the first people _ever_ to run a DPS6 or Level 6 machine under Mod 400 24/7 for more than a week. We know this because we found several memory leaks in Mod 400 and patched them. One particularly nasty leak would lose 2 bytes of physical memory each time a new process was started. I particularly remember that one, because I had to turn the patch in on punched cards! (Three of them.) The last time I ever used a card punch, and the only time during my 5 years at Honeywell. One other "high priority" project for the Ada group was to get the process for submitting software to Testing and Configuration moved into the modern era. The first program submitted that was written in Ada came back with two complaints: No copyright string in the executable, and no area reserved for patches! We added two pragmas to the compiler, but by the time I left, we had killed the patch area requirement for products written in high-level languages, and OS patches could be submitted on floppy disk, among other things. -- Robert I. Eachus The ideology he opposed throughout his political life insisted that history was moved by impersonal tides and unalterable fates. Ronald Reagan believed instead in the courage and triumph of free men and we believe it all the more because we saw that courage in him. -- George W. Bush June 11, 2004