I see that there's a good debate towards how and what should be comemrcialised, why, and the rest of the 5 W's :-)....in the meantime, anyone actually developping something that is a viable commercial OTS solution? Or are we all debating but no one's creating? :-).... This thread is definitately an interesting thread to read, it's no wonder everyone's posting, at least we do get some good ideas out of this thread :-)....the PDF on your website, is very interesting to read too, made me think and I like it when something makes me think :-). It suggests that individuals can get together and develop commercial software, now I ask, who is teamed up with who (if any) and what's being done in the areas of "getting Ada known everywhere" and "commercial development". I've seen past projects lists, good exhaustive ones at that. How about we start a "futur project list" instead? Seems to be enough time has been spent, in ada and in most other languages, making the computer do what we dotn want to....(calculations, data processing, repetitive tasks of all kinds whether in database related or non related fields).... I think it's time to really start "creating new fields" of applications. New generations of computing technologies....once that haven't been touched before, or not as much as they should have. Could be any type of project, from virtual reality (I'm not saying to make our own 3D Studio Max here, I'm saying making a full real time virtual reality OS, one in which you can do things like walk through your files for example...really innovative stuff like that is what I'm suggesting. this is but an example of so many things that could be done, and I know Ada is just the language to do it in :-)......sure this one is a big project, but it can definitaly be cut done to reaonable sized modules that can be humanly maintainted :-). And that was my 0.02 cents worth :-)..... -- St�phane Richard Software Developer "Some people take the past to create their present.... Other's Take the present to make their future." Which category do you fall under? :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - "rleif" wrote in message news:mailman.1.1060420392.299.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org... > I agree that an Ada OS is too large a project. However, a real-time core > that could be used with Linux and that had Ada interfaces to XML constructs > should be viable. The problem with Linux core components is that one is > making a donation to IBM, RedHat, etc. However, a POSIX type binding that > could be used with Linux might solve that problem. An Ada version of Xforms > that worked under SVG would actually cover many embedded devices. > > The Ada page of my web site, www.newportinstruments.com has articles on how > multiple individuals can get together for two noble causes: 1) Spreading the > use of Ada. And 2) Making money. > Bob Leif > > Robert C. Leif, Ph.D. > Email rleif@rleif.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marin David Condic [mailto:nobody@noplace.com] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:52 AM > To: comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org > Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. > > An OS is a pretty serious project - even if you're looking at an > embedded OS of some sort. If you start with too big an objective, you'll > likely not achieve it. You might try taking some existing OS and porting > it. That would be a good start and might be achievable in a reasonable > time span. There was an RTOS out there written in Ada - RTEMS if I > recall the name correctly. One called MaRTE also springs to mind. Try: > > http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/457082.html > > MDC > > Luke A. Guest wrote: > > > > Well, for one, I have been (although not recently) researching operating > > systems and want to design one. I know what I want to achieve on this but > > I haven't actually been able to do any work on it for ages :-( > > > > > > -- > ====================================================================== > Marin David Condic > I work for: http://www.belcan.com/ > My project is: http://www.jast.mil/ > > Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ a c m . o r g > > "In general the art of government consists in taking as > much money as possible from one class of citizens to give > to the other." > > -- Voltaire > ====================================================================== > >