From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,88cbc05b492dd012,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-09-23 18:32:41 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!gatech!paladin.american.edu!auvm!PSAVAX.PWFL.COM!CONDIC Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Sep 1994 11:56:38 EDT Sender: Ada programming language From: CONDIC@PSAVAX.PWFL.COM Subject: Re: Student views on Ada Comments: To: INFO-ADA@VM1.NODAK.EDU Date: 1994-09-23T11:56:38-04:00 List-Id: From: Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93 Subject: Re: Student views on Ada Original_To: PROFS%"SMTP@PWAGPDB" Original_cc: CONDIC on Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:17:16, Robert Dewar writes: > >Marin, front panel lights are for sissies! The first time I programmed >an Incoterm terminal, I had to enter a boot loader from the keyboard >one hex digit at a time, completely blind with no feedback of any kind >at all. It took 600 keypresses to enter it. Now that's REAL programming :-) > Robert: When I started programming, we only had punch cards and paper tapes, (and we were damned glad to have 'em, too! ;-) Nowadays, these kids think they've got it rough if they have to work with a VT340 terminal instead of a workstation! In *my* youth, what we wouldn't have given for a simple bootstrap ROM... But then there were the *real* old timers who sneered on my reliance on paper tape and hex keypads. In *their* time, they had to program machines with plug-in breadboards and jumper-wires. (and they were damned glad to have 'em, too! ;-) They could even identify programs by how they *sounded* when the relays were clicking. Front pannel lights and toggle switches? Us kids didn't know how good we had it! :-) BTW: Do you remember programming the old TI-58 calculators? Now *there* was a sport for Real Programmers! MDC Marin David Condic, Senior Computer Engineer ATT: 407.796.8997 M/S 731-93 Technet: 796.8997 Pratt & Whitney, GESP Internet: CONDICMA@PWFL.COM P.O. Box 109600 Internet: MDCONDIC@AOL.COM West Palm Beach, FL 33410-9600 Internet: 4033121@MCIMAIL.COM =============================================================================== "Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." -- Winston Churchill ===============================================================================