From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,325c54deb91283fd X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-27 13:07:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!spamkiller2.gnilink.net!nwrdny02.gnilink.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030419 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Iraq References: <1051282861.155019@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 20:07:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 162.84.155.224 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verizon.net X-Trace: nwrdny02.gnilink.net 1051474024 162.84.155.224 (Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:07:04 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2003 16:07:04 EDT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:36659 Date: 2003-04-27T20:07:04+00:00 List-Id: Wesley Groleau wrote: > I'd put it slightly differently: the same programmers > who screwed up because they tried to develop a system in > a language they weren't capable of learning, will > screw up a system in any language for the same reason. It's not really incapability of learning. It's a matter of trying to use a language with only a cursory understanding of it, instead of a deep one. When you do that, you're going to fail, or at least "succeed badly", because you will fail to use the features of the language to their best advantage. It's the old concept of being able to code Fortran in any language. Think of how many posts in this newsgroup criticize Ada newbies for trying to transliterate C into Ada instead of learning how things should be done properly in Ada. Now imagine them actually going off to build a system in that style. Without an expert in Ada around to supervise the training, the people learning Ada aren't going to know when they've learned enough about the language to use it properly.