From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2def9aa85afa5d22 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-09 07:35:50 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed1.uncensored-news.com!propagator-la!news-in-la.newsfeeds.com!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison References: <3BDCE159.39F6D422@adaworks.com> <11bf7180.0110290311.4d8d6f04@posting.google.com> <3BDF9C6A.C25520C5@adaworks.com> <3BE023AB.8F235EF5@sparc01.ftw.rsc.raytheon.com> <9rp8mo$6d8$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9rrmvl$98d$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3BE4221B.34589071@adaworks.com> <3BE43CDC.F6B1EE30@acm.org> <3BE813E4.C4797DDE@reges.org> Subject: Re: Joint Strike Fighter Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 10:35:04 EST Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2001 15:35:04 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:16127 Date: 2001-11-09T15:35:04+00:00 List-Id: In article <3BE813E4.C4797DDE@reges.org>, Rex Reges says... >What about Ada? Like the Macintosh, Beta VCRs and the >Vax, Ada's superiority is admired by those in the >know. That matters squat to management who want to I dislike such analogies. For one thing, I've used all three and remain unimpressed by their supposed total superiority. For another, those are *platforms*. Platforms have a whole set of issues languages don't. A more proper analogy is with things that are "tools". You could also make analogies with building materials. People don't like to use the proper analogies though, because it doesn't easily lead to the point they'd like to make (and for good reason). For another, I strongly believe that all those platforms became marginalized because they were proprietary and were trying to fight open standards. From that point of view, the analogy with Ada is even more off. >I doubt that one could get several hundred Ada programmers >in a pinch. I couldn't hire six experienced Ada >contractors in six months! And try to get them to move Personally I think you'd have trouble getting that many *true* C++ programmers in six months too. Just about all the supposed C++ programmers I've run into actually write C with "//" line comments. The place I work in is officially a C++ shop, but I'd say we have more Ada developers in here than *real* C++ developers. >to some tornado infested place like Oklahoma City (who knows >what Fort Worth holds). Of course we could train C++ I probably would have let this whole message slide, but as an Ada developer who just so happens to already live in "some tornado infested place" (Tulsa gets more of them than OKC does), I have to admit this tweaked me a bit. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.