From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a3ca574fc2007430 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 115aec,f41f1f25333fa601 X-Google-Attributes: gid115aec,public From: Chris Hills Subject: Re: Ada and Automotive Industry Date: 1996/11/22 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 198236968 distribution: world x-nntp-posting-host: phaedsys.demon.co.uk references: <55ea3g$m1j@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <3280DA96.15FB@hso.link.com> organization: Phaedrus Systems mime-version: 1.0 newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.realtime Date: 1996-11-22T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: In article , "Robert I. Eachus" writes >In article <3293C05E.7932@thomsoft.com> Dave Wood writes: > > > Yes, but to date Boeing and the airline industry have shown far > > more interest in safe software than the backward automotive > > industry. I suspect it will take a catastrophic and > > widely-publicized failure (more to the point, one resulting in > > large liability claims) before this industry decides to take steps > > to protect their shareholders^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h customers from > > "Level A" software failures. > > You are an optimist. There has already been one major incident >like this (the Audi 5000), and one which is just developing (air-bags >firing when they shouldn't). The belief is that the Audi 5000 cases >were single point hardware failures, and the air-bag problem may turn >out to be the same. But the automotive industry sees both as business >as usual, no cause for alarm. One VERY spectacular crash as a direct restult of a fault in an ADA program was the Ariane rocket in June this year. Even more awkward, the bug would have beed found by static [software] testing! The only reason there was not more of an outcry was the system was NOT insured..... They have no one to blame but them selves. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills, Tamworth Staffs \/\/\/\/\/\/ /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ B77 5PG England /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/