From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.unit0.net!cyclone02.ams2.highwinds-media.com!voer-me.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!fx16.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Shark8 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/34.0a1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is getting OpenGL to work with Ada a lost cause? References: <1bd438c5-7563-4c37-a53d-8378573cf784@googlegroups.com> <59f62e65-dcf0-42c9-82d5-5e1a3c095583@googlegroups.com> <1ed96b4d-e0d4-4a23-b230-dd1eadc14401@googlegroups.com> <14b80334-a07d-4ebb-81f6-34b5469f1134@googlegroups.com> <1919212643429967793.040137laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> <1441286327430086309.749208laguest-archeia.com@nntp.aioe.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@teranews.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:25:59 UTC Organization: TeraNews.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:25:52 -0600 X-Received-Body-CRC: 3384469932 X-Received-Bytes: 2232 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com comp.lang.ada:188548 Date: 2014-08-18T19:25:52-06:00 List-Id: On 18-Aug-14 15:49, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: > What else would one use? a DOS batch file? Ideally it would be part of the programming environment itself, handling dependencies ant the like essentially transparently; one of the reasons we're stuck using such crappy toolchains is because of the low-level view of the underlying system: an excellent example is source-files -- why would you want to have these stored *natively* as text? that's a /huge/ step down from storing it as some sort of datafile (eg an AST) with real rules/formats. Make and the like tend to be terrible because of (a) stupid formats (e.g. make-file's tab, ANT's XML, etc), and (b) deep flaws in the design (e.g. GPR's project variables, ANT's XML, etc). ----------------------------------------------------------- Here's a good paper on GNU's Make's flaws: http://www.conifersystems.com/whitepapers/gnu-make/