From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,b30bd69fa8f63cb2 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-13 16:41:35 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!small1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!intern1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp.gbronline.com!news.gbronline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:45:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:42:12 -0500 From: Wesley Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com Organization: Ain't no organization here! User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030425 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, es-mx, pt-br, fr-ca MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: C bug of the day References: <1054751321.434656@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.117.18.83 X-Trace: sv3-43LKQHiqQm2ga54GzOLA7fK6Af6YdOE21s/q6H8c/AQBQ2jpVS+0CVzdlw5GcdY9CFa1RbmKIwd9zRm!JJnwUkxu31fgtkMu2v0zJXc5UfhnJgUotr6TJ7HjNKPOun2R2T1tfs0+CJ34tqSyyMf3pHUSjdu4!dXsn X-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@gbronline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39148 Date: 2003-06-13T18:42:12-05:00 List-Id: > The problem with Java is .... > .. [and] Reference types are not the default - they are the only Well, there's also primitives. Contrary to an oft-repeated falsehood, Java is NOT "pure O.O." As a beginner, I find it irritating at best to have to maintain two different paradigms for handling entities, and to have to keep track of which group every object fits into. At least in Ada, it's only a reference type if I _need_ it to be and declare it that way.