From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3885b7fd66a1db28 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-08 13:59:02 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!cambridge1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!bos-service1.ext.raytheon.com!bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Wes Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en,es-MX,es,pt,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Why is Ada NOT a good choice for a beginner to programming? References: <15FN9.2313$c6.2612@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> <8ivo1vo5ir3piqsck4ondj0cuo47g426kf@4ax.com> <9gMS9.483613$GR5.189928@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:59:01 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.168.133.155 X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com 1042063142 151.168.133.155 (Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:59:02 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:59:02 EST Organization: Raytheon Company Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:32789 Date: 2003-01-08T16:59:01-05:00 List-Id: > Why do people place so much value on what Dijkstra said? Of course I > know who he was and of his many contributions, but I don't understand > the facination some have with what he wrote on Ada (or other languages), > especially since much of it seems like just his opinions (and like the > opinions of others are not subject to objectivity but personal preference). After reading that report, I don't place any value on what he said. I've used derived types, subtypes, and other abstraction-supporting features of Ada and I _know_ they're valuable. A person with an experience is never at the mercy of a person with an argument. Not even if the argument is "but Dijkstra said...."