From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_WORDY, INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,e01bd86884246855 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fb1663c3ca80b502 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Ken Garlington" Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000/07/14 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 646162908 References: <8ipvnj$inc$1@wanadoo.fr> <8j67p8$afd$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <395886DA.CCE008D2@deepthought.com.au> <3958B07B.18A5BB8C@acm.com> <395A0ECA.940560D1@acm.com> <8jd4bb$na7$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jfabb$1d8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8jt4i0$18ec7$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <8k5a31$1p61t$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <8k8p8m$1upjk$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <0cS95.9944$7%3.667682@news.flash.net> <8kl1lu$2qk4k$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 X-Complaints-To: abuse@flash.net X-Trace: news.flash.net 963542885 216.215.65.127 (Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:48:05 CDT) Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:48:05 CDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000-07-14T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: "Joachim Durchholz" wrote in message news:8kl1lu$2qk4k$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de... > What we're discussing here is whether DbC would have helped or not, how > DbC works at all, and what the cost of using DbC would have been. I > don't see how waving with ethical or financial implications helps us to > find out any of these points. Because that's part of the real-world business environment... and some aspects of that real-world business environment have some profound implications for the ability of DbC to work in this context (e.g. having transparent access to all data related to the module's expected operating environment).