From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-18 09:16:53 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!feed.textport.net!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy From: Ted Dennison References: <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B2E2261.303FE952@easystreet.com> Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:16:37 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:16:37 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8851 comp.lang.java.programmer:77165 comp.lang.pl1:1086 comp.lang.vrml:3861 comp.lang.java.advocacy:21385 Date: 2001-06-18T16:16:37+00:00 List-Id: In article <3B2E2261.303FE952@easystreet.com>, Al Christians says... > >This would appear to make it impossible, for example for a military >contractor that 'distributes' its products to military customers to >include GPL code in a weapons system that was under security >restrictions, or for one country to license military technology True. The GPL'ed stuff I used was all self-contained development tools (compilers, editors, etc). So I guess that wasn't much of an issue. Also, it was all for stuff that would not be redistributed anyway. (One thing I touched on later in the post...I have not worked on anything considered a munition). >that included GPL code to another country with any restrictions on >to whom the weapons could be re-sold. And is hurling a projectile >that contains embedded software 'redistribution'? That would be an interesting legal question indeed. On one hand, it would be funny to see a bombed country sue its bomber for GPL violations (or the right to examine the bomb's souce code). On the other, it would be interesting to see one country sue another over reverse-engineering the software on captured miliatary apparatus, under international copyright law, due to a closed-source software license. (You've *really* ticked us off now. Call back the troops! Recall the bombers! Tell everyone to stand down at the ICBM silos! We're sending in the {shudder} lawyers.) --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com