From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Xref: utzoo comp.lang.ada:5781 comp.lang.c++:14299 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!princeton!njin!uupsi!sunic!dkuug!iesd!iesd.auc.dk!fischer From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars P. Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: chief programmer team organizations was (c++ vs ada results) Message-ID: Date: 21 Jun 91 22:04:26 GMT References: <1991Jun18.122812.18190@eua.ericsson.se> <1991Jun18.220609.19103@netcom.COM> <1991Jun19.170047.25064@software.org> <1991Jun20.143535.27176@software.org> Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg In-reply-to: blakemor@software.software.org's message of 20 Jun 91 14:35:35 GMT List-Id: >>>>> On 20 Jun 91, blakemor@software.software.org (Alex Blakemore) said: Alex> This makes sense and sounds like it can work well. It's really just Alex> the chief programmer teams from the Mythical Man Month by Fred Brookes. Alex> One obvious caveat - you really better have the right people Alex> in the chief programmer roles or you are sunk. Please note that the Brookes book is not exactly new -- it's a great book, one that every serious software professional should read, but remember that some of the advise reflects state-of-the-art in the early 70's. I recommend DeMarco's "PeopleWare" book as a good introduction to the management of development and the organization of people and teams. It reflects a more modern approach to providing teams with a good spirit by giving each person responsibility and the opportunity to develop, plus providing good working environments. This is much more in line with modern management practice. Alex> If you are interested in a biting but accurate satirical treatise on Alex> the role of incompetance and hierarchies in large organizations, see the Alex> classic book - "The Peter Principle". And please, please, remember that Parkinson's books are just that - satire. They were never intended to be textbooks or solid advise on management. They are hilariously funny and thought provoking at the same time, but taking them literally would be a mistake. /Lars -- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of CS Dept., Univ. of Aalborg, DENMARK. | these things. -- Calvin