From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,899fc98b2883af4a X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-17 02:10:24 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!mtvwca1-snh1.ops.genuity.net!chcgil2-snh1.gtei.net!news.bbnplanet.com!chcgil2-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) Date: 17 May 2003 04:10:20 -0500 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305091549.48b9c5d9@posting.google.com> <7507f79d.0305121629.5b8b7369@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305130543.60381450@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305160453.29c0c4af@posting.google.com> In article , "Martin Dowie" writes: > "soft-eng" wrote in message > news:9fa75d42.0305160453.29c0c4af@posting.google.com... >> The point I have been trying to make is that Ada catches >> a small extra subset of errors (and compared to modern C, C++ >> or Java, the "extra" might be non-existent). Ada or not, > > Nope - a while back we did a comparison using a rather well known > study into the root causes of programming errors in 'C' (I'll reply with > the exact reference when I get to work on Monday, if you want) Roughly > 50% of the errors either could not occur in Ada or would be caught by the > compiler. C++ also (almost by definition) contains the same root causes > as 'C'. In particular because of the ability to readily "drop into C" from a C++ compiler. Raise your hand if an instance of dropping into C would cause those in a code review to prevent a project from being put into production at your shop. Hmmm, my terminal emulator shows no hands :-)