From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,912597791e813f68 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-01-20 13:17:06 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.airnews.net!cabal12.airnews.net!usenet From: "John R. Strohm" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: advantages or disadvantages of ADA over pascal or modula Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 15:12:51 -0600 Organization: Airnews.net! at Internet America Message-ID: X-Orig-Message-ID: References: <3E171612.E4E2972@t-online.de> <3E296128.4183B70A@t-online.de> Abuse-Reports-To: abuse at airmail.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library2.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Mon Jan 20 15:16:20 2003 NNTP-Posting-Host: !cY^r1k-W+YkYH- (Encoded at Airnews!) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:33250 Date: 2003-01-20T15:12:51-06:00 List-Id: Yes, it does, for ongoing concerns (i.e., out of the garage and in real offices, with staff). If you have access to a good business database, do some searching. In the United States, you will find that a healthy engineering-related business typically has sales on the order of $300,000 per employee. This number is remarkably constant against size of the organization, and is a very effective way of measuring the health of the organization. When I noticed this, I started paying attention. I ran into a couple of apparently-large companies with significantly lower sales per employee. Upon investigation, it turned out that their U.S. organization was essentially a very small sales office, and the bulk of the firm was located in India, where costs are MUCH lower. I also ran into a couple such that were U.S. firms, that were in financial trouble, but had enough stored dollars to keep going until things turned around. "Georg Bauhaus" wrote in message news:b0gjd8$1oq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de... > John R. Strohm wrote: > : In the United States, with all overhead considered, a good engineer costs > : his employer on the rough order of $250,000 per year. I would be very > : surprised if the price was that much different in Germany. > > Does that include the very small shops? > > Would you be even more surprised to hear that the prices in Germany > go up as you move down from North to South? Let alone Switzerland, > where most Germans will find shocking figures on the bill of fare. > > Also, the "suing culture" reported from the USA is not really present > here. > > -- Georg