From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-14 10:33:16 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!hammer.uoregon.edu!feed.textport.net!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy From: Ted Dennison References: <3B25D5FB.15C9B240@dresdner-bank.com> <9g5as6$hbq$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Message-ID: X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 13:32:20 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:32:21 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8740 comp.lang.java.programmer:76383 comp.lang.pl1:1033 comp.lang.vrml:3802 comp.lang.java.advocacy:21118 Date: 2001-06-14T17:32:21+00:00 List-Id: In article <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk>, Marin David Condic says... > >I'll second that notion. For better or worse, people have come to associate >the word "Free" as meaning "No $$$ Charged" when the word is connected to a .. >me nothing but my time - not the case...) They probably should have used the >word "Open" as in "Open Architecture" or "Open Standard" or "Open Source" - >you can see inside and use it in any way you like - you might still have to >*pay* for it, but once you do, there are no unreasonable restrictions on its >use. "Open" doesn't quite reach it, because there's no implication that the right to redistribute is present, only the right to inspect. "Liberated" is actually a little closer to what I think they were shooting for. However, that word implies previous enslavement, which isn't quite right either. "Free" really has the perfect meaning. The only problem is that is has other seprate meanings as well. :-( Anyway, better minds than ours (OK, better than mine at least) have been all over this nomenclature issue to exhaustion. I doubt we'll be able to fix it here, short of switching this whole thread to French. --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com