From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-04-23 06:08:12 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!news.binc.net!kilgallen From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died (was): 64 bit addressing and OOP Date: 23 Apr 2003 08:08:09 -0500 Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation Message-ID: References: <9fa75d42.0302250710.5549baaf@posting.google.com> <3E5C7033.BD5DC462@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0302260618.7506cba7@posting.google.com> <3E5CF5C6.84822F57@adaworks.com> <8qkczsAcGcn+Ew83@nildram.co.uk> <3EA04A1E.CAFC1FEF@adaworks.com> <9fa75d42.0304221126.7112b7d5@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0304230439.55d28e70@postingOrganization: LJK Software NNTP-Posting-Host: eisner.encompasserve.org X-Trace: grandcanyon.binc.net 1051103238 18417 192.135.80.34 (23 Apr 2003 13:07:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@binc.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 13:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:62546 comp.object:61660 comp.lang.ada:36405 misc.misc:13599 Date: 2003-04-23T08:08:09-05:00 List-Id: In article <9fa75d42.0304230439.55d28e70@posting.google.com>, softeng3456@netscape.net (soft-eng) introduces the term "itsy-bitsy feature": > Any itsy-bitsy feature *will* be found wonderful by somebody. > > That's exactly the problem -- because there were so > many itsy-bitsy features in Ada, a novice needed to > learn all of them, because somebody somewhere finds > it useful and it will be found in real-world code. Most shops restrict their usage of Ada (or any language) to the needs of their particular domain. I do not believe I have ever used floating point in Ada, and for the first 10 years I did not use tasking. I had no trouble skipping over those parts of the documentation. > Having tons of features in auxiliary libraries > in the "C" style make mastering the language much simpler > by chunking the task of learning without complicating > the syntax issues. I am sorry you had trouble learning Ada syntax, but rest assured there are many others who have had no such problem.