From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52d2ab9c3dfbc246 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-03-12 13:26:20 PST Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Path: sparky!uunet!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!linus!linus.mitre.org!linus!mbunix!emery From: emery@dr_no.mitre.org (David Emery) Subject: Re: Ada scandal makes front page of Wash. Post business section In-Reply-To: billk@hawk.cs.ukans.edu's message of Fri, 12 Mar 1993 18:06:47 GMT Message-ID: Sender: news@linus.mitre.org (News Service) Nntp-Posting-Host: dr-no.mitre.org Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. References: <335@fedfil.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 20:38:08 GMT Date: 1993-03-12T20:38:08+00:00 List-Id: >It seems to me that the easiest way to refute this well-publicized example >is by giving a counterexample. Is there a project that you can point to > a) Of comparable size, complexity and importance > b) Ada was used > c) The programmers were happy > d) The customers were happy > e) Modifications were easily made > f) The project came in on time A couple of examples come to mind: AFATDS (although I'm not sure about the delivery schedule) STANFINS Both of these systems are multi-million lines of code, and both have received substantial exposure in the trade press. Locally, we have two systems, CCPDS-R and Cobra Dane, in the 150k-500k range that have come in under schedule and budget using Ada. None of these programs have all of the characteristics of FAA-AAS. I personally think that things the size of FAA-AAS may not be doable at all. I certainly believe that, if it can't be done in Ada, it can't be done. dave