From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_MSGID, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,b41c6348841d8091 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b41c6348841d8091 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: nospam@thanks.com.au (Don Harrison) Subject: Re: subjectivity Date: 1997/09/10 Message-ID: #1/1 X-Deja-AN: 271224418 Sender: news@syd.csa.com.au X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dev50 References: Organization: CSC Australia, Sydney Reply-To: nospam@thanks.com.au Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 1997-09-10T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Matthew Heaney wrote: :Here's a quote relevent to this thread: : :The idea that complexity is directly related to people's psychological :being was recognized by Ashby. He argues that complexity depends on :people's interests: : :"to the neurophysiologist the brain, as a feltwork of fibers and a soup of :enzymes, is certainly complex; and equally the transmission of a detailed :description of it would require much time. To a butcher the brain is :simple, for he has to distinguish it from only about thirty other "meats."" : :From Dealing with Complexity, by Flood and Carson Nice quote. :They also observe that : :"In general, we associate complexity with anything we find difficult to :understand." Good definition. :That's why complexity can only be understood by considering both people :_and_ things. There is no such thing as an "objective" measure of :simplicity or complexity, because humans are involved, and every human has :a different view of the system, depending on his interest. To the butcher, :the brain isn't complex at all. The interest factor may be quite relevant here. My interest in minimality, uniqueness etc. certainly colours my own perception of simplicity. Don. (Reverse to reply) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Don Harrison au.com.csa.syd@donh