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From: eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: Software Engineering is not a hoax... (was Re: Any research
 putting c above ada?)
Date: 1997/05/23
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In article <5m4idq$oc4@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> kaz@vision.crest.nt.com (Kaz Kylheku) writes:

  > ...Real engineers _build_ a product, they don't _write_ it.

   Agreed.

 > The end products of real engineering can't be transmitted over data
 > networks nor duplicated ad nauseum onto magnetic media.

   Disagree.  Even electrical, mechanical, and civil engineers produce
end products that can be transmitted over networks and duplicated ad
nauseum.  This is because the end product of the engineering effort is
the design, not the actual product.  For example an EE might design a
new chip, test prototypes, then send the design to Taiwan for
production.

   And I am working on a new philosophy/approach for software
engineering which does realize that the "end product" is not the
exectuable code.  The end product includes the source code,
documentation, scripts, make files, test plan, test code, test
results, etc.  All the pieces that are needed to build the executable,
and will be reused in the next build and the one after that.  If I can
"push a button" to build a release, then I haven't built a release, I
have built a release building machine, which is a much more useful
thing.

--

					Robert I. Eachus

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