From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109fba,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,b19fa62fdce575f9 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 108717,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid108717,public X-Google-Thread: 1014db,ef0074ec236ba6e3 X-Google-Attributes: gid1014db,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-12-12 09:09:27 PST Path: bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!sundog.tiac.net!news.kei.com!eff!blanket.mitre.org!linus.mitre.org!linus!mbunix!eachus From: eachus@spectre.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c,comp.programming,comp.lang.c++,comp.object Subject: Re: COBOL origin (was Re: Why don't large companies use Ada?) Date: 12 Dec 94 11:45:52 Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. Distribution: usa Message-ID: References: <3aa7jo$7j@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <3be9as$jrh@felix.seas.gwu.edu> <1994Nov29.182445.6678@eos.arc.nasa.gov> <1994Nov30.221351.2917@nosc.mil> NNTP-Posting-Host: spectre.mitre.org In-reply-to: mshapiro@nosc.mil's message of Wed, 30 Nov 1994 22:13:51 GMT Xref: bga.com comp.lang.ada:8541 comp.lang.c:34338 comp.programming:5786 comp.lang.c++:40615 comp.object:9732 Date: 1994-12-12T11:45:52+00:00 List-Id: In article <1994Nov30.221351.2917@nosc.mil> mshapiro@nosc.mil (Michael D Shapiro) writes: > COBOL did evolve, of course. The 1960 standard served as a > starting point and many companies built language processors based > on it, with their own extensions. By the time of the 1974 > standard, people were really starting to think of actually > standardizing and the Federal Information Processing Standard > (FIPS) specifying four levels of the language helped get rid of > many idiosyncrasies. Companies continued to "improve" it, adding > newer programming constructs. Another standard appeared in 1985. Don't ignore COBOL 68, and wasn't there a COBOL 64? In the early years COBOL evolved fairly rapidly. > One problem many people have with Ada is that it was not allowed to > evolve in the same way most other languages did. This lack of > incremental improvements has meant that new paradigms cannot be handled > easily, requiring instead a massive step that still won't turn out > right in the view of many. This view of a language, frozen in time, > may be wonderful for the managers of huge programs, but it turns many > programmers off. Ada went from Green, to Preliminary Ada, to Ada 80, to Ada 83 in about 5 years, so the step from Ada 83 to Ada 95 should be regarded as appropriate for a mature language. Those first revisions were fairly large steps (mostly visibly in exceptions and text IO), and Ada 80 was a military standard... -- Robert I. Eachus with Standard_Disclaimer; use Standard_Disclaimer; function Message (Text: in Clever_Ideas) return Better_Ideas is...