From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!yale!think.com!linus!linus!linus!mbunix!eachus From: eachus@aries.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Stability for Embedded Applications? Message-ID: Date: 18 Jan 91 01:53:32 GMT References: <9101130210.AA02405@NSWC-WO.ARPA> Sender: root@linus.mitre.org (The Boss) Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA. In-Reply-To: wdence@NSWC-WO.ARPA's message of 13 Jan 91 02:10:58 GMT Nntp-Posting-Host: aries.mitre.org List-Id: First, many compilers disappeared from the list when 1.10 validations expired due to the fact that this time all the validations expired the same day. Second, the issue of validation policy was discussed at the last Ada Board meeting. As far as I know the AJPO has not acted on the resulting recommendations, but it will probably result in 1.11 validations being good forever (or for at least as long as Ada 1983 is still supported). Third (and possibly most important), there is a concept of project validation, which basically says that THIS is the compiler we are using on this project, and is the only valid compiler (and version) until a decision is made to upgrade. Sounds like what your project should do (or should have done...) Now to the subject of price: Ada compiler pricing has gone through several stragtegies, but seems to have settled down now. If you don't charge for run-time licenses (and most compiler vendors now don't) then you may sell one or two compilers for an embedded project where the final program will run on thousands of machines. So the developer of compilers for embedded systems has to recover his costs from a small onesie-twosie market. Compilers for PC-ATs and compatibles (also 80286 of course) on the other hand, have a larger market because virtually every programmer gets his own copy. Prices for these compilers are now under $500. Supply and demand at work. How much was the in-circut emulator you bought? Or the symbolic debugger? The price for those has nothing to do with the programming language you use, but for the same marketing reasons prices are just as high. -- Robert I. Eachus When the dictators are ready to make war upon us, they will not wait for an act of war on our part." - Franklin D. Roosevelt